Dyno Numbers – 2015 Subaru STi Stock to Stage 2+

ChrisTouge January 27, 2015 Comments: 58

2 weeks ago we took some time to do a quick test on a 2015 Subaru STi that client brought to us wanting to extract more power from it.  We were very curious to have first hand information regarding the new 2015 STi as we have seen a lot of stuff posted online but it is much easier to validate directly.  Having driven a few 2015’s the car feels significantly faster out of the box then any previous generation STi that I have driven from 2004-2014.  With that in mind we spent our own time to do this testing so that we could provide this information to all of you.  We first put the car on the dyno 100% stock and did 3-4 pulls to check for consistency.  After the first pull we were pretty floored by the numbers, the car made 269 Peak HP and 272 Peak Torque.  This is about 40 HP more then we saw previously on a stock 2010 STi that we dyno’d.  The peak numbers were quite good but as you can see in the plot the power is not smooth and the boost was very wavy as well.  This can be felt while driving the vehicle and is something we’ve become accustomed to with stock Subaru tunes.  The most likely reason for the power increase is a slightly larger turbo and/or the tuning strategy used.  

We then reflashed the car with the latest COBB APV3 stage 1 91 octane map.  The reason it was done on the 91 octane map was to confirm safety and the owner of the vehicle was flying and we could not get confirmation if he had filled the car with the 94 octane we had requested.  When the customer arrived we did find out that the car was filled with 94 octane so we may have gotten a bit more HP from the stage 1 dyno but we were mainly looking to see the differences between the different setups.  With the stage 1 map loaded we did multiple pulls and ended up with around 317 Peak Torque and 255 Peak Horsepower.  So we gained a huge chunk of torque but the COBB map is actually more conservative up top and makes less horsepower.  You can also see that the low end power band has been smoothed out over the stock map.

Jack15STiStockStage1

Once we completed the above testing we were quite curious to see how much power could be safely extracted from this 2015 STi with the upgrades planned.  We rolled the car over to our lift and proceeded to change out parts.  We installed an Invidia Catted Downpipe, Invidia Q300 Cat-Back, AEM Intake and Grimmspeed 3-Port EBCS.  This is essentially a Stage 2+ Setup with the addition of the EBCS for precise boost control.  Once complete we rolled the car back and let Sasha at OnPoint do his thing for a few hours tuning the car.  As always Sasha did a phenomial job tuning the car and the graph speaks for itself.  Target boost was set to 18.5-19PSI and when it was all said and done the car made 310WHP and about 345WTQ.  There’s probably a bit more power left on the table but when we started getting to 350WTQ we decided to call it a day since the car only has around 5000KM on the clock.  For comparisons sake, we did a 2013 STi earlier this year with an SF Intake, turbo-back and 3-port BCS and it made 295 Peak HP and 330 Peak Torque. Something else to note is how much lower the boost threshold is with the turbo-back and intake installed.  It looks like it takes about 300rpm less to reach the same amount of boost compared to stock. Overall we’re very impressed by the new 2015 STi, out of the box it is a great car but there’s still power left on the table while maintaining a good margin of safety as well.   

Jack15STi-StockVSStage2

Event: Dyno 
Location: Touge Tuning, Mississauga Ontario
Ambient Temp: 
Elevation: 249 ft.
Weather: 
Car: 2015 Subaru STi
Tuner: Sasha from OnPoint Dyno
Dyno Info: Dynapack
Transmission: Stock 6 speed
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 310@ 5350RPM – SAE J1349 (2004) Corrected
Peak Torque at RPM: 345 @ 3700RPM – SAE J1349 (2004) Corrected
Baseline HP/TQ for Stock 2015 STi on same dyno: 269WHP/272WTQ
Baseline HP/TQ for Stock 2010 STi on same dyno: 228WHP/240WTQ
Target Boost: 18.5PSI Tapering
Fuel: 94 Octane – Petro

Mod List
-Invidia Catted Downpipe
-Invidia Q300 Cat-Back
-AEM Cold Air Intake
-Grimmspeed 3-Port EBCS

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58 thoughts on “Dyno Numbers – 2015 Subaru STi Stock to Stage 2+

  • Good morning! Very interesting read. I currently have a 2016 Subaru STI Series.HyperBlue. I am running a Perrin resonated down pipe, mid-pipe, y-pipe, 4″ mufflers w/ 4″ staggered quad tips. I have the COBB Accessport and flash tuned with the Stage 2 93 octane tune. I have the COBB SF intake w/ Cobb box that I purchased before I put the exhaust on but had to take off for lack of tune. Do you guys have a tune I can download for a Stage 2 + SF Intake so I can put my SF Intake back on? Any help would be awesome!

    Thanks

    Kyle Hutchins

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    • Kyle, we do offer dyno tuning services if you wanted to come in to have that done so you can run the COBB intake/airbox.

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      • James Antrim Wells

        Hey, so are you saying that you can run a Cobb DP with the Cobb SF intake with a pro tune?

        Here is my deal, I am currently running a stage 1 plus SF on my 2015 STI and just ordered a turbo back. I really want to run my TBE with my COBB SF intake but there is no tune. Would it be safe to run this setup if I got a pro tune?

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        • James, you can definitely run the intake if you get tuned for it. Without a tune the MAF readings will be incorrect and the car has the potential to run lean with a lot of ignition timing which is not ideal.

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  • Kyle, be very careful at peak throttle with your setup. Your air to fuel ratio is going to be dangerously thin without bigger fuel injectors!

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  • hi there am going for stage 2 in my sti 2015 but am worried about the pistons and the ringland are going to be fine with it or something bad will happen to them as am not ready for any any problems and what you advice to keep the pistons safe.

    dP
    q300
    cold/intak
    BOV
    Tune

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      • Hey Chris out of curiosity, if you have a custom tune why would you also need an accesport? Is the accessport just for recording data?

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        • Chris@TougeTuning

          Thanks for the question Kevin. The AccessPORT is not just for monitoring/recording data but is also used to reflash the ECU. Without the AccessPORT you would need another system to write to the ECU that would allow you to change the tables inside the ECU. The AccessPORT with the AccessTuner software is what allows us to do this.

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  • Hi i have a 2015 sti running cobb accessport v3 stage 2..91 octane map/invidia catted downpipes stock mid pipe/nameless muffler delete and beatrush oil catch can…i also have the cobb sf intake that i took out when installing the dp..is there a tune to run the intake and dp? and is it safe? cobb is telling me i can’t run the 2 with out upgrading the fuel system because the car will be running dangerously lean..so what do u guys say about this?

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    • It is ok in the summer but in the winter you will run pretty close to the limit if not a little over the stock fueling system. To protect against this we recommend upgrading the injectors and fuel pump.

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  • hi i have 15 sit and i have aem cai, invidia dp and q300 exhaust just want to know what happen i still run the car without tuning?

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  • Hi Chris thanks for the answer , so now I put back the factory intake so. Now I can run stage 2 with the Cobb ap
    With the downpipe and exhaust is that correct?

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  • Hi Chris I’m living in ns Halifax do you have any one
    Or shop here to recommend tuning or protune??
    Otherwise I have to come down to see you guys??

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  • Hi guys, very interesting chat,! I own a 2015 STI Limitted and wanted to do some upgrades, but have some doubs about wich way to go. I just ordered a Mishimoto air intake 2 1/2″ and a Mishimoto catback and I am watting for delivery this week. I think that with those updates along I can go Cobb stage 1 rigth? Or should I order the downpipe and go to stage 2 direct? Just looking for some extra power and better exahust sound. What are your thoughts?

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    • With your purchased mods you would want to run a Stage 1+ Map that is set-up for the Mishimoto Intake. However, I would recommend going with a downpipe and go Stage 2+ and have a custom tune done to maximize power and safety.

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  • Hi Chris,

    I have a ’14 STI hatch. Currently I have the Cobb downpipe (I didn’t want to go full in-catted), Tomei Expreme TI exhaust, Cobb intake, GFB BOV, and 2+ AP map. I’ve got the AEM high flow fuel pump ready to install, but I’m worried about using an AP map vs a tuning shop. and also if I need to wait until I can get the injectors as well (I’ll be getting 1,000cc). Any advice is appreciated, thanks for your time.

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    • I’m not sure I understand the questions Jeremy but installing the AEM fuel pump will slightly affect the tune as the factory regulator cannot bleed off fuel fast enough with that large of a pump. IT would be suggested to install the pump and injectors and get a custom tune.

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  • Thanks Chris, that was my question. I had heard the AP had a tune for the fuel pump, but I wasn’t sure and I couldn’t find anything.

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  • Hi,

    I have a question about running stage 2 91 octane OTS Cobb tune. What would be the minimum/necessary mods required to run the tune safely in the STI? Can you run it on stock, or can only stage 1 run on stock?

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    • The Stage 2 map requires at minimum an aftermarket catted downpipe but preferably the downpipe and cat-back. The Stage 1 maps are designed for a 100% stock vehicle.

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  • Hi chris,

    I have a SF cobb intake + axle back + AP stage 1 with 92 fuel tune. my question is if I go for stage 2 which I will have to remove the intake and install the DP can I also install the Grimmspeed uppipe ? would that giving me any trouble and which AP tune should I apply for. thanks

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    • Chris Richardson

      Mike, if you have a 2015+ STi I wouldn’t replace the uppipe unless going external wastegate as the gains would be minimal since there’s no catalytic converter in your uppipe. You can replace it though without issue on the COBB map.

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  • I have a 2017 sti. invidia catted 3inch exhaust and Intake and box . Do i need a pro ? Or is there a map 4 me . 2ndly should I change fuel regulator b4 i tune with 1000cc injectors ?

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    • Chris Richardson

      We always recommend a custom tune if the vehicle is in a state where you won’t modify it much further in around 2 years. There’s a lot of power to be gained with a custom map. If adding injectors and fuel pump we recommend changing to the 06 STi FPR or an aftermarket unit.

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    • Without adding upgraded fueling such as injectors, fuel pump etc. there is no map for that set-up. A custom tune would be required.

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  • I recently bought a 2013 sti. Unfortunately 94 octane fuel is very limited in my area and I have to settle for 91 octane. I am worried about the longevity of the engine because of this. Would a pro tune help make it safer on 91 octane?

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    • Caleb, in your case I would suggest running fuel from the same station or brand as much as you can and running the OTS 91 ACN map for now. If you can get a custom tune for that fuel done that would be ideal and provide you the safest tune for your car with that fuel.

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  • Hey Chris,

    2015 STi Limited here. If I go with a Cobb SF Intake and a Cobb Catted Downpipe, I know you recommend upgrading the stock injectors and fuel pump. Which injectors and fuel pump do you recommend? And there’s debate that an upgraded aftermarket Fuel Pressure Regulator is also needed. Is this necessary for a safe and conservative Pro-Tune?

    I do live in a States that has all 4 Seasons (Maryland).

    Thanks,

    Jeremy

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    • Jeremy, I would recommend with the Injector Dynamics ID1050x or COBB 1050x as they are essentially the same thing. For fuel pump we use the DW65c, COBB Fuel Pump or AEM 320LPH pump, all work well. We always change out the fuel pressure regulator when doing injectors to aid the tuner in getting rid of the fuel stumble issue. IAG would be a great place to help you with your parts, service and tuning.

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  • Hey my car is completely stock but i want some power mods. What are the best things to change without having to change injectors and fuel lines, or makin thr car run lean. I was thinking of just a accesport, cobb intake and downpipe and a turboback exhaust. I also live in ny and need a practical daily driver jus wanted a little bump in power and sound without running bad

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    • Without changing the fueling system the best bang for your buck would be the COBB AccessPORT and a Catted Turbo-Back exhaust system.

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  • I’ve got a 2016 STI limited will I be fine running Cobb accessport and a un-catted turbo back exhaust ?

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  • Hey there. I have a 09 WRX STI. I just installed a GrimSpeed CAI. Its also running on a Catless Downpipe. Am I safe with my Cobb Stage 2 93 octane OTS Map. I run 94 consistently in the car. The cars Ignition Timing, TD Boot Error and DAM have actually improved since i put it in. Just want to make sure I’m running safe. I plan on getting a Pro Tune done once the full exhaust system is on.

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    • A custom tune would be strongly recommended with the intake change as it will not match the COBB OTS map perfectly.

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  • Have STI 2016
    Can we install COBB stage 3
    What are the costs part and labour and what is the usual power gain
    Thanks

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  • Hi there, have STI 2008
    Currently running Cobb AP stage 2 91 ACN with invidia catted downpipe, N1 exhaust and oil catch can. Looking to do a pro tune.
    would an intake and bov make a big different?
    Also what are the cost to do a stage 2 pro tune via cobb?

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  • Great thread.

    I am just about to mod my 2017 sti with the Invidia downpipe, highflow fuel pump and my tuner is installing the ECUTEK license and race rom with the tune. I am asking this to broaden knowledge. If going in on all this would it be wise to add in larger injectors for safety reasons? The current stock injectors are 565cc can they handle the upgrade and support the block from fuel starvation?

    Cheers from Australia.

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  • Greetings from North Carolina. I’ve got a 2016 STi and I’m working on a “NC Street Legal Sleeper Build”.

    NC Inspections require your car to have the same number of catalytic converters that come from the factory. I learned this the hard way from experience with a previous car. With my STi, the number is 2 – both in the downpipe. Given no aftermarket downpipes with two cats, I will be working with the stock downpipe.

    I have an AccessPort, Cobb SF Intake/Airbox, and a Nameless Catback currently. I’m considering upgrading the stock intercooler to an ETS TMIC (sleeper build) and adding a Perrin Turbo Inlet Hose, AIG Street Series AOS, Grimmspeed Turbo Heat Shield, and Grimmspeed Electronic Boost Controller, followed by a protune. From what I can tell, the stock up-pipe and y-pipe aren’t worth replacing.

    Will I need to upgrade injectors/fuel pump?
    Any other advice you’d give me regarding upgrades?

    I run 93 Octane here in NC and live fairly close to sea level.

    Thanks in advance for the help,
    Jeff

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    • As long as you stay below “Stage 2” you will not need to do fueling upgrades. So anything past a downpipe would require them.

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      • Planning on doing Greddy RS exhaust, Mishimoto race intake, Mishimoto top mount, and aluminum driveshaft ( for butter launches ), was considering doing either a cobb catted downpipe or the hks equal length headers.

        My question is: what would be better in terms of hp/tq gains between the downpipe and headers? Would doing the headers on stock downpipe be an effective setup? Thanks

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  • Great write up on the 2015 STi and the numbers! I have always heard though when you put on an DP and intake the injectors are at 100% load…is this not the case? I am currently have a DP and catback and wanted to add a little something more (basically go with what you added ( dp, catback, intake, and ebcs) but I was concerned about the injectors. Any info would be great! TIA

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    • This dyno chart and analysis was conducted with a AEM Cold Air Intake and Invidia Catback. i cannot directly confirm but Remaark and Cobb both make good products, so expect similar results give or take a few HP+/-
      More drastic parts changes such as using an Axle back instead, an intake without proper shielding or both may produce different results. we recommend following the methodology of using 94 octane to easier achieve the 18.5PSI Tapering boost nessasary for such numbers

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